AMS Fix Stack The AMS on Top and Fix For Failed To Retract Filament Error

AMS Fix Stack The AMS on Top and Fix For Failed To Retract Filament Error

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I update, revise and improve my design for my fixes very often. Please only use my Print Profile (Labelled as Designer or SPStudio) to ensure this fix is updated & work well. Profile with Non-Designer tags may be of poor functionality or non updated model.

Click on Like if this model helped you in some way. It is very important and will help increase the exposure of this design to more people who might need it. Cheers!

 

Announcement

New and Improved V2 Versions for the Ams Buffer Fix Before Buffer and After Buffer have just been released. Do check them out in my profile to see what are the improvement. Thank you for your continuous support.

Introduction

Failed to pull back filament error can be caused by multiple different variables & factors. This is a part of an series of Ams fixes that i have designed which can complement each other when used together. I do suggest you install all my fixes together for the 0ptimal effect to help your filament travel properly across the entire system which in turn can help improve, reduce or remove any potential Ams errors.

 

I have grouped all fixes into their respective Collection for ease of searching what to install.

 

V2 Collection are improvements done on the shortcoming of V1 Collection. Feel free to try V2 Collection and if it doesn't work properly then you can try the V1 Collection. You can easily find each of the Collection by clicking on the Collections tab on my profile.

 

Unfortunately there isn't a single fix that can 100% work for everyone. What works for others, may not work for you but my fixes is definately a great place to start and have worked for majority of the users. My fixes are precisely measured then modelled. A Proper Fix would have the highest chance to reduce or solve the error.

 

If you are too bored to read the entire lengthy write up explaining the need for this fix, here is the TL:DR.

 

What is this?
Ams Fix - Stack the Ams on tp have a Ptfe tube holder that is curved, bent and also compressed in a way that it will prevent any deformation of the Ptfe tube by gripping the tube at the middle part of the mount yet it allowed the front part of tube to move and flex within an acceptable measured range.

 

 

Who needs this fix?
You encounter problems and errors during printing when you attempt trying to stack your Ams on tp of your Printer and Bambu Labs advice to you is place the Ams on the right or left side of the printer then this is the fix for you.

 

 

Have this fix been tested?

This fix have been tested for on 1 X1C, 1 P1P and 2 P1S for than 92200 retractions.

 

 

Why choose this fix instead of other similarly designed fix?

This is ez to print but yet its pretty precisely measured for the angle of the curvature. It looks like a semi circle but i can assure you its not just a semi circle holder. The degree to the bend and curve even down to the 2 ends how its designed have been measured and after countless trial and error i arrive at this is the proper curvature that will allow the filament to pass through with a smooth movement with the least amount of friction.

 

 

Installation Video

Plz look carefully at how the different 2 ends, one round hole one square hole is installed. It's very crucial please follow exactly.

 

Please do not thread the Ptfe along the curvature. As per install instruction you should go in 1 end then the next end then insert the cable into the rear of the Ams then adjust the tip of the end to near the exit. Then finally you press down the rest of the tube into the fix.

 

Running Loading And Unloading, Look Carefully to see how the filament go through and the mount moving. If your set after install looks very differently means you could have installed it wrongly.

 

 

This part have to be as close to the Ams exit as possible. Also make sure you push the Ptfe tube all the way INTO the Ams before you align this part to be close to the exit. Then finally you press the Ptfe into the mount at the middle part which will tightly hold the Ptfe.

 

 

 

Important Notes:


Note 1: Please follow the instructional video carefully its very important.


Note 2: The Ptfe tube in the holder is designed to move and flex as the filament go through it. Its intentional and there must be at least 10 to 15 cm of space behind the printer for the measured flexing motion to happen.


Note 3: Capricorn Ptfe will not work unless if its the same O/D as the Bambu specification tube


Note 4: The fix is designed to be tight in the middle part. Its normal as stated above it helps to ensure the tube remain in the proper curvature angle. You will need to press the Ptfe into the middle part of the holder. The end that connect to the rear of the Ams is designed to be loose (Square End) and able to flex easily. The other end (End with a round hole) is designed to let the Ptfe tube pass through snugly. If this sounds confusing then please follow the installation video carefully.


Note 5: This fix will work on all Ams including Hydra or Non Modified Ams.

 

 

Important

This would be the most ideal route for the Ptfe tube if your Ams is on tp of the printer. Its basically a huge C. Please try to make the Ptfe route like this. The most ideal length of Ptfe is 62cm IF your Ams is on tp of the printer with NO riser. 62cm will be able to give you this perfect route.

 

If you have a riser just adjust the route to be somewhat similar for the proper effect.

 

 

 

 

What Mod / Fixes / Enhancement do i offer?

Please don't download the wrong one. Only those in the photos below is designed by me who painstakingly took a lot of time to measure carefully and design just to get it working. #SupportOriginal Love you guys for all the support so far!

 

- Ams FIX Failed To Retract Filament Error (a preventive measure and solve the bay 2 and 3 error and prevent bay 1 and 4 to have any possibility of having an error due to tension and friction) (Updated design on the 2nd photo below, try 1 then if it doesn't works properly for you then install the other one.)

 

 

(BRAND NEW) Ams Filament Pull Back Fix V2 Upgraded - Completely New Design Upgrade For Ams Filament Pull Back ERROR! Precisely Measured

 

 

- Ams Buffer Fix For Failed To Pull Back Filament Error (reduce wear on the external Ptfe tube and allow the most smooth, least friction angle to go into the Ams buffer thus reducing the possibility of an error popping up)

 

 

- V2 Ams Buffer Fix For Failed To Pull Back Filament Error (reduce wear on the external Ptfe tube and allow the most smooth, least friction angle to go into the Ams buffer thus reducing the possibility of an error popping up)

 

 

- Ams Fix - Stack the Ams on tp (Using a carefully measured holder to hold the Ptfe in a curved angle that will allow filament to go through with the least possible amount of friction when the Ams is stacked on tp of the printer)

 

 

- Ams Buffer Ptfe Right Guide Mount Fix will correct and maintain a nearly 100% straight line when the Ptfe tube exit the Ams buffer to move into the printer extruder.

 

 

- V2 Ams Buffer Right Ptfe Guide Mount - The Fix For Failed To Pull Back Filament a newly improved fix designed to replaced the V1 This will correct and maintain a nearly 100% straight line when the Ptfe tube exit the Ams buffer to move into the printer extruder. ez Installation. No screws needed!

 

 

- Extruder Ams Filament Pull Back Fix will correct and maintain a nearly 100% straight line to move the filament in and out of the extruder. This will also reducing wear on the Ptfe tube. Its design allow the filament to travel in the most smooth, least amount of friction and pressure for the proper angle to go into and exit the extruder thus greatly reducing the possibility of an Failed To Retract Filament error or similar errors from popping up.

 

 

- V2 Extruder Ams Filament Pull Back Fix will correct and maintain a nearly 100% straight line to move the filament in and out of the extruder. This will also reducing wear on the Ptfe tube. Its design allow the filament to travel in the most smooth, least amount of friction and pressure for the proper angle to go into and exit the extruder thus greatly reducing the possibility of an Failed To Retract Filament error or similar errors from popping up.

 

 

- The Smooth 4 Way Splitter. Look No Further. Combined with Ams Hub Lite together with this small attachment, you will have the Smooth 4 Way Splitter.

 

 

Technical Write Up

Friction - The cause of most of the Ams filament failed to retract problem.


As shown in the following photo, the Ptfe tube that connects the Ams to the Ams Single Buffer HUB may and is often bent in an angle due to the printer placement like too close to the wall or foreign objects pushing against the Ptfe tube behind the printer or simply because of the height or placement of the Ams unit.

 

All of these creates bends or pressure on the shape of the Ptfe tube in turn creates a lot of friction, as the Printer and Ams is equipped with multiple sensors, these friction will cause filament not passing through the Ams to the printer smoothly and thus causing the Ams Failed To Retract Filament Error and similarly related errors.

 

This information is also written in Bambu wiki

 

 

So what is the possible solution to the problem?
Firstly we need to reduce friction for filament passing through Ptfe tubes? Simple! A good curvature Angle. If we optimise the angle of the Ptfe it will allow the filament to go through with the least amount of friction and pressure.

 

 

So what i have created to solve the problem?
I have measured then created about 20 different test prints of curvature needed to allow the filament to move from the Ams to the printer extruder smoothly and freely and retract back with the least amount of pressure and friction. This fix can solve also wear issue on the Ptfe tube as less friction means less wear.

 

 

What do i need in additional to installing this printed fix part?
Nothing.

 

Additional Notes

The error itself is complicated and non definitive. Whatever cause the error today might not be the same area that cause the error again, same with person A and Person B setup, as the error itself is mainly due to tension with friction triggering the sensors in the machine.

 

I would suggest you download and try and install all my fixes together for the proper effect as together they will ensure a smooth delivery of the filament with much lesser friction (read write ups) and hopefully that will help and reduce or resolve the error. If you use only one or 2 of the fixes the error could still happen as there are still other area might still be causing excessive friction.

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couldn't print it spagethi every print
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Hi please open bambu studio on your PC then open my file then check 2 things 1st is your printer model selected correctly then check if your build plate is selected correctly. If any of these is wrong then it could cause a Z offset being off and this. Also check if u actually download my print profile. if u get any other person it could cause a problem also. If adhesion problem insist then use a gluestick or turn on brims it will not affect the functionility of the fix. Thank you and do keep me updated.
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Replying to @SPStudio :
i will try it thanks
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Replying to @Biviyt :
Thank you.
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PLA - 50mm/s First Layer
Works well even when the AMS is not on top. Love your work.
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Thank you so much for the support. I really appreciate feedback like this. Have a great 2024 ahead!
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PETG - 25mm/s First Layer
Printed up perfectly well in PETG. Both ends though have square openings, one just has a round outline around the square hole, I'm assuming that's the side that goes down towards the AMS buffer.
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Hi so far there isnt any issue reported even if the wrong side is inserted. Thank you for the support.
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PLA - 50mm/s First Layer
Failed on the cold plate for some reason, pulled itself off the bed, something to do with the end which has the circle on. Switched to the textured plate and then had no issues.
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Thank you so much for trying this. Do check how to attach it properly in the description thank youm
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PLA - 50mm/s First Layer
i didnt check that my ams to high placed and its is not suttable for it, but it still is great model
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Thank you. You can still probably use it cause it still does help smoothen the angle when the filament exit the ams. Still a good thing. Just that if your ams is too high then you need more ptfe to adjust the route of the ptfe to be like this. Just extend the tube when your ams is higher
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Printed with Creality PLA Grey. Fits perfect.
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Looks great! Make sure about 15cm space to wall to allow it to move.
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PLA - 50mm/s First Layer
The profile printed great and it fit perfectly as it should.I can't be 100% sure if it actually helps as I added like 4 different things to help to the AMS at the same time, but better safe than sorry.
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All of my fixes are designed to reduce the pull back error. Put in a lot of hard work into them. If you installed it correctly and properly will only have advantage. However its not a 1 cure fix all.bi do hope it will work for you and Thank you.
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Was a little hard to get line through but once done working as expected.
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Thank you. Its suppose to be snug to work the best. Thanks for trying it out!
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PLA - 50mm/s First Layer
fast print! this reduce ams errors. but i need to Heat this Guide to fit the ptfe.
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i have tested this mutiple times please make sure you follow instruction videos. do not thread the tube through the curve. Entry at one side then plug into the ptfe end then align then press the tube in the middle part.
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PLA - 50mm/s First Layer
looks to be very useful. no major problems printing. curve could be smoother but work just the same on the X1E
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